Our Senior Staff Engineer works with our Staff and Sr. Engineers to innovate and build new systems, improve and enhance existing systems and identify new opportunities to apply your knowledge to solve critical problems. You will lead the strategy and execution of a technical roadmap that will increase the velocity of delivering products and unlock new engineering capabilities. The ideal candidate is a self-starter that has deep technical expertise in their domain. Position Responsibilities As a Senior Staff Engineer, you will: Provide technical leadership to multiple areas and provide technical and thought leadership to the enterprise Collaborate across team members and across the tech organization to solve our toughest problems Develop and execute technical software development strategy for a variety of domains Accountable for the quality, usability, and performance of the solutions Utilize programming languages like C#, Java, Python or other object-oriented languages, SQL, and NoSQL databases, Container Orchestration services including Docker and Kubernetes, and a variety of Azure tools and services Be a role model and mentor, helping to coach and strengthen the technical expertise and know-how of our engineering and product community. Influence and educate executives Consistently share best practices and improve processes within and across teams Analyze cost and forecast, incorporating them into business plans Determine and support resource requirements, evaluate operational processes, measure outcomes to ensure desired results, and demonstrate adaptability and sponsoring continuous learning Qualifications Exemplary ability to design, perform experiments, and influence engineering direction and product roadmap Experience partnering with engineering teams and transferring research to production Extensive experience in leading and building full-stack application and service development, with a strong focus on SAAS products / platforms. Proven expertise in designing and developing microservices using C#, gRPC, Python, Django, Kafka, and Apache Spark, with a deep understanding of both API and event-driven architectures. Proven experience designing and delivering highly-resilient event-driven and messaging based solutions at scale with minimal latency. Deep hands-on experience in building complex SAAS systems in large scale business focused systems, with great knowledge on Docker and Kubernetes Fluency and Specialization with at least two modern OOP languages such as C#, Java, C++, or Python including object-oriented design Great understanding of open-source databases like MySQL, PostgreSQL, etc. And strong foundation with No-SQL databases like Cosmos, Cassandra. Apache Trino etc. In-depth knowledge of CS data structures and algorithms Ability to excel in a fast-paced, startup-like environment Knowledge of developer tooling across the software development life cycle (task management, source code, building, deployment, operations, real-time communication) Experience with Micro-services oriented architecture and extensible REST APIs Experience building the architecture and design (architecture, design patterns, reliability, and scaling) of new and current systems Experience in implementing security protocols across services and products: Understanding of Active Directory, Windows Authentication, SAML, OAuth Fluency in DevOps Concepts, Cloud Architecture, and Azure DevOps Operational Framework Experience in leveraging PowerShell scripting Experience in existing Operational Portals such as Azure Portal Experience with application monitoring tools and performance assessments Experience in Azure Network (Subscription, Security zoning, etc.) Experience 10+ years full-stack development experience (C#/Java/Python/GO), with expertise in client-side and server-side frameworks. 8+ years of experience with architecture and design 6+ years of experience in open-source frameworks 4+ years of experience with AWS, GCP, Azure, or another cloud service Education Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science, Information Systems, or equivalent education or work experience Annual Salary $115,000.00 - $260,000.00 The above annual salary range is a general guideline. Multiple factors are taken into consideration to arrive at the final hourly rate/ annual salary to be offered to the selected candidate. Factors include, but are not limited to, the scope and responsibilities of the role, the selected candidate’s work experience, education and training, the work location as well as market and business considerations. At this time, GEICO will not sponsor a new applicant for employment authorization for this position. Benefits: As an Associate, you’ll enjoy our Total Rewards Program* to help secure your financial future and preserve your health and well-being, including: Premier Medical, Dental and Vision Insurance with no waiting period** Paid Vacation, Sick and Parental Leave 401(k) Plan Tuition Reimbursement Paid Training and Licensures *Benefits may be different by location. Benefit eligibility requirements vary and may include length of service. **Coverage begins on the date of hire. Must enroll in New Hire Benefits within 30 days of the date of hire for coverage to take effect. The equal employment opportunity policy of the GEICO Companies provides for a fair and equal employment opportunity for all associates and job applicants regardless of race, color, religious creed, national origin, ancestry, age, gender, pregnancy, sexual orientation, gender identity, marital status, familial status, disability or genetic information, in compliance with applicable federal, state and local law. GEICO hires and promotes individuals solely on the basis of their qualifications for the job to be filled. GEICO reasonably accommodates qualified individuals with disabilities to enable them to receive equal employment opportunity and/or perform the essential functions of the job, unless the accommodation would impose an undue hardship to the Company. This applies to all applicants and associates. GEICO also provides a work environment in which each associate is able to be productive and work to the best of their ability. We do not condone or tolerate an atmosphere of intimidation or harassment. We expect and require the cooperation of all associates in maintaining an atmosphere free from discrimination and harassment with mutual respect by and for all associates and applicants. For more than 75 years, GEICO has stood out from the rest of the insurance industry! We are one of the nation's largest and fastest-growing auto insurers thanks to our low rates, outstanding service and clever marketing. We're an industry leader employing thousands of dedicated and hard-working associates. As a wholly owned subsidiary of Berkshire Hathaway, we offer associates training and career advancement in a financially stable and rewarding workplace. Opportunities for Students & Grads Learn more about GEICO Learn more about GEICO Diversity and Inclusion Learn more about GEICO Benefits \n\n#Salary and compensation\n No salary data published by company so we estimated salary based on similar jobs related to Design, SaaS, Python, Docker, DevOps, Education, Cloud, API, Senior and Engineer jobs that are similar:\n\n $47,500 — $97,500/year\n
\n\n#Benefits\n 💰 401(k)\n\n🌎 Distributed team\n\n⏰ Async\n\n🤓 Vision insurance\n\n🦷 Dental insurance\n\n🚑 Medical insurance\n\n🏖 Unlimited vacation\n\n🏖 Paid time off\n\n📆 4 day workweek\n\n💰 401k matching\n\n🏔 Company retreats\n\n🏬 Coworking budget\n\n📚 Learning budget\n\n💪 Free gym membership\n\n🧘 Mental wellness budget\n\n🖥 Home office budget\n\n🥧 Pay in crypto\n\n🥸 Pseudonymous\n\n💰 Profit sharing\n\n💰 Equity compensation\n\n⬜️ No whiteboard interview\n\n👀 No monitoring system\n\n🚫 No politics at work\n\n🎅 We hire old (and young)\n\n
\n\n#Location\nMD Chevy Chase (Office) - JPS

\nAbout the Role: \n\nWe are looking for a Site Reliability Engineer to work on our core Infrastructure and Security team, to assist us with designing, building, running, improving and scaling the infrastructure that engineering and data teams use to power their services. Your duties will include the development, testing, and maintenance of our serving and data platforms, using a combination of cloud products, open source tools and internal applications. Your duties will blend software development and operations in order to continuously automate our environments. You should be able to build high-quality, scalable solutions for a variety of problems.\n\nOur Company:\n\nSezzle is a cutting-edge fintech company whose long-standing mission is to financially empower the next generation. Sezzle has built a payment platform that increases purchasing power for consumers by offering interest-free installment plans. This increase in purchasing power for consumers leads to increased sales and basket sizes for the numerous eCommerce merchants that currently work with Sezzle. \n\nWhat Makes Working at Sezzle Awesome? \n\nAt Sezzle, we are more than just brilliant engineers, passionate data enthusiasts, out-of-the-box thinkers, and determined innovators; we are skilled musicians, yogis, cyclists, chefs, golfers, dog-lovers, and rock-climbers. We believe in surrounding ourselves with not only the best and the brightest individuals, but those that are unique and purpose-driven in all that they do. Our culture is not defined by a certain set of perks designed to give the illusion of the traditional startup culture, but rather, it is the visible example living in every employee that we hire. \n\nResponsibilities: \n\n\n\n* Design, build and maintain scalable infrastructure for running our systems, based on Kubernetes, Redshift and additional AWS services and products.\n\n* Help the product teams quickly build out MVP products to test new solutions on the market.\n\n* Maintain and develop monitoring and alerting solutions to improve the on-call experience.\n\n* Assist product developers in debugging and triaging production issues.\n\n* Be the first line of defense for our operational environments, triaging and resolving problems as they occur. You will be on an on-call rotation.\n\n* Design and scale platform and data architectures to sustain rapid user growth.\n\n* Level up the teams through pairing, code review, and mentoring.\n\n* Bring and share with our team extensive experience with industry best practices in software development.\n\n\n\n\nMinimum Requirements: \n\n\n* Bachelor's in computer science (preferred) or equivalent related experience \n\n* At least 5+ years of overall software, data, deployments and platform infrastructure experience.\n\n\n\n\nIdeal Skills & Experience: \n\n\n* Experience with building and/or serving REST APIs using Go or a similar language.\n\n* Experience with Relational Databases, SQL and ORM technologies.\n\n* Strong overall Linux knowledge.\n\n* DevOps experience with CI/CD pipelines, Docker and Kubernetes, and cloud computing platforms like AWS.\n\n* Experience with deployment/provisioning tools like Terraform, Helm, Ansible.\n\n* Experience with implementing and maintaining observability and monitoring tools - Prometheus, Datadog, NewRelic, Grafana, Loki or similar.\n\n* Experience in ETL/ELT pipelines using Python and Open-source tools such as DBT.\n\n* Proficiency in building and maintaining large-scale data warehousing technologies such as Redshift.\n\n\n\n\nAbout You: \n\n\n* A+ character. We are team-first here at Sezzle. \n\n* A hard-working mentality. It’s early and there is still a lot to build. \n\n* An excellent communicator. \n\n* A fun attitude. Life’s too short. We can have fun while we work hard on cool things. \n\n* Smarts. We need people that are smart enough to make decisions on their own and also smart enough to know when they need input from others. \n\n\n\n\nSezzle’s Technology Stack:\n\n\n* Languages: Golang, Typescript, Python\n\n* Frontend: Typescript - React and React Native\n\n* Backend: Golang\n\n* Database: MySQL, Postgres, Elasticsearch\n\n* DevOps & Cloud: AWS, Kubernetes\n\n* Version Control: Git\n\n* CI/CD: Gitlab\n\n* Testing: Developer-driven, focus on automated unit, integration, and end-to-end tests\n\n* Sezzle is focused on using open source, and we build what we can before buying!\n\n\n\n\nCompensation\n\nThe compensation range for the role is as follows:\n\n4,600 - 9,000 USD Monthly\n\nEqual Employment Opportunity: Sezzle Inc. is an equal opportunity employer. We celebrate diversity and are committed to creating an inclusive environment for all employees. We do not discriminate based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age, disability, genetic information, pregnancy, or any other legally protected status. Sezzle recognizes and values the importance of diversity and inclusion in enriching the employment experience of its employees and in supporting our mission.\n\n#Li-remote \n\n#Salary and compensation\n No salary data published by company so we estimated salary based on similar jobs related to React, Python, Docker, Cloud, Senior, Sales, Engineer and Ecommerce jobs that are similar:\n\n $57,500 — $100,000/year\n
\n\n#Benefits\n 💰 401(k)\n\n🌎 Distributed team\n\n⏰ Async\n\n🤓 Vision insurance\n\n🦷 Dental insurance\n\n🚑 Medical insurance\n\n🏖 Unlimited vacation\n\n🏖 Paid time off\n\n📆 4 day workweek\n\n💰 401k matching\n\n🏔 Company retreats\n\n🏬 Coworking budget\n\n📚 Learning budget\n\n💪 Free gym membership\n\n🧘 Mental wellness budget\n\n🖥 Home office budget\n\n🥧 Pay in crypto\n\n🥸 Pseudonymous\n\n💰 Profit sharing\n\n💰 Equity compensation\n\n⬜️ No whiteboard interview\n\n👀 No monitoring system\n\n🚫 No politics at work\n\n🎅 We hire old (and young)\n\n
\n\n#Location\nSantiago, Santiago Metropolitan Region, Chile

\nAbout the Role: \n\nWe are looking for a Site Reliability Engineer to work on our core Infrastructure and Security team, to assist us with designing, building, running, improving and scaling the infrastructure that engineering and data teams use to power their services. Your duties will include the development, testing, and maintenance of our serving and data platforms, using a combination of cloud products, open source tools and internal applications. Your duties will blend software development and operations in order to continuously automate our environments. You should be able to build high-quality, scalable solutions for a variety of problems.\n\nOur Company:\n\nSezzle is a cutting-edge fintech company whose long-standing mission is to financially empower the next generation. Sezzle has built a payment platform that increases purchasing power for consumers by offering interest-free installment plans. This increase in purchasing power for consumers leads to increased sales and basket sizes for the numerous eCommerce merchants that currently work with Sezzle. \n\nWhat Makes Working at Sezzle Awesome? \n\nAt Sezzle, we are more than just brilliant engineers, passionate data enthusiasts, out-of-the-box thinkers, and determined innovators; we are skilled musicians, yogis, cyclists, chefs, golfers, dog-lovers, and rock-climbers. We believe in surrounding ourselves with not only the best and the brightest individuals, but those that are unique and purpose-driven in all that they do. Our culture is not defined by a certain set of perks designed to give the illusion of the traditional startup culture, but rather, it is the visible example living in every employee that we hire. \n\nResponsibilities: \n\n\n\n* Design, build and maintain scalable infrastructure for running our systems, based on Kubernetes, Redshift and additional AWS services and products.\n\n* Help the product teams quickly build out MVP products to test new solutions on the market.\n\n* Maintain and develop monitoring and alerting solutions to improve the on-call experience.\n\n* Assist product developers in debugging and triaging production issues.\n\n* Be the first line of defense for our operational environments, triaging and resolving problems as they occur. You will be on an on-call rotation.\n\n* Design and scale platform and data architectures to sustain rapid user growth.\n\n* Level up the teams through pairing, code review, and mentoring.\n\n* Bring and share with our team extensive experience with industry best practices in software development.\n\n\n\n\nMinimum Requirements: \n\n\n* Bachelor's in computer science (preferred) or equivalent related experience \n\n* At least 5+ years of overall software, data, deployments and platform infrastructure experience.\n\n\n\n\nIdeal Skills & Experience: \n\n\n* Experience with building and/or serving REST APIs using Go or a similar language.\n\n* Experience with Relational Databases, SQL and ORM technologies.\n\n* Strong overall Linux knowledge.\n\n* DevOps experience with CI/CD pipelines, Docker and Kubernetes, and cloud computing platforms like AWS.\n\n* Experience with deployment/provisioning tools like Terraform, Helm, Ansible.\n\n* Experience with implementing and maintaining observability and monitoring tools - Prometheus, Datadog, NewRelic, Grafana, Loki or similar.\n\n* Experience in ETL/ELT pipelines using Python and Open-source tools such as DBT.\n\n* Proficiency in building and maintaining large-scale data warehousing technologies such as Redshift.\n\n\n\n\nAbout You: \n\n\n* A+ character. We are team-first here at Sezzle. \n\n* A hard-working mentality. It’s early and there is still a lot to build. \n\n* An excellent communicator. \n\n* A fun attitude. Life’s too short. We can have fun while we work hard on cool things. \n\n* Smarts. We need people that are smart enough to make decisions on their own and also smart enough to know when they need input from others. \n\n\n\n\nCompensation\n\nThe compensation range for the role is as follows:\n\n4,600 - 9,000 USD Monthly\n\nEqual Employment Opportunity: Sezzle Inc. is an equal opportunity employer. We celebrate diversity and are committed to creating an inclusive environment for all employees. We do not discriminate based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age, disability, genetic information, pregnancy, or any other legally protected status. Sezzle recognizes and values the importance of diversity and inclusion in enriching the employment experience of its employees and in supporting our mission.\n\n#Li-remote \n\n#Salary and compensation\n No salary data published by company so we estimated salary based on similar jobs related to Python, Docker, Cloud, Senior, Sales and Engineer jobs that are similar:\n\n $55,000 — $110,000/year\n
\n\n#Benefits\n 💰 401(k)\n\n🌎 Distributed team\n\n⏰ Async\n\n🤓 Vision insurance\n\n🦷 Dental insurance\n\n🚑 Medical insurance\n\n🏖 Unlimited vacation\n\n🏖 Paid time off\n\n📆 4 day workweek\n\n💰 401k matching\n\n🏔 Company retreats\n\n🏬 Coworking budget\n\n📚 Learning budget\n\n💪 Free gym membership\n\n🧘 Mental wellness budget\n\n🖥 Home office budget\n\n🥧 Pay in crypto\n\n🥸 Pseudonymous\n\n💰 Profit sharing\n\n💰 Equity compensation\n\n⬜️ No whiteboard interview\n\n👀 No monitoring system\n\n🚫 No politics at work\n\n🎅 We hire old (and young)\n\n
\n\n#Location\nBogotá, Bogotá, Colombia

\nThis is a remote role for candidates based in Latin America.\n\nAbout the Role: \n\nWe are looking for a Site Reliability Engineer to work on our core Infrastructure and Security team, to assist us with designing, building, running, improving and scaling the infrastructure that engineering and data teams use to power their services. Your duties will include the development, testing, and maintenance of our serving and data platforms, using a combination of cloud products, open source tools and internal applications. Your duties will blend software development and operations in order to continuously automate our environments. You should be able to build high-quality, scalable solutions for a variety of problems.\n\nOur Company:\n\nSezzle is a cutting-edge fintech company whose long-standing mission is to financially empower the next generation. Sezzle has built a payment platform that increases purchasing power for consumers by offering interest-free installment plans. This increase in purchasing power for consumers leads to increased sales and basket sizes for the numerous eCommerce merchants that currently work with Sezzle. \n\nWhat Makes Working at Sezzle Awesome? \n\nAt Sezzle, we are more than just brilliant engineers, passionate data enthusiasts, out-of-the-box thinkers, and determined innovators; we are skilled musicians, yogis, cyclists, chefs, golfers, dog-lovers, and rock-climbers. We believe in surrounding ourselves with not only the best and the brightest individuals, but those that are unique and purpose-driven in all that they do. Our culture is not defined by a certain set of perks designed to give the illusion of the traditional startup culture, but rather, it is the visible example living in every employee that we hire. \n\nResponsibilities: \n\n\n\n* Design, build and maintain scalable infrastructure for running our systems, based on Kubernetes, Redshift and additional AWS services and products.\n\n* Help the product teams quickly build out MVP products to test new solutions on the market.\n\n* Maintain and develop monitoring and alerting solutions to improve the on-call experience.\n\n* Assist product developers in debugging and triaging production issues.\n\n* Be the first line of defense for our operational environments, triaging and resolving problems as they occur. You will be on an on-call rotation.\n\n* Design and scale platform and data architectures to sustain rapid user growth.\n\n* Level up the teams through pairing, code review, and mentoring.\n\n* Bring and share with our team extensive experience with industry best practices in software development.\n\n\n\n\nMinimum Requirements: \n\n\n* Bachelor's in computer science (preferred) or equivalent related experience \n\n* At least 5+ years of overall software, data, deployments and platform infrastructure experience.\n\n\n\n\nIdeal Skills & Experience: \n\n\n* Experience with building and/or serving REST APIs using Go or a similar language.\n\n* Experience with Relational Databases, SQL and ORM technologies.\n\n* Strong overall Linux knowledge.\n\n* DevOps experience with CI/CD pipelines, Docker and Kubernetes, and cloud computing platforms like AWS.\n\n* Experience with deployment/provisioning tools like Terraform, Helm, Ansible.\n\n* Experience with implementing and maintaining observability and monitoring tools - Prometheus, Datadog, NewRelic, Grafana, Loki or similar.\n\n* Experience in ETL/ELT pipelines using Python and Open-source tools such as DBT.\n\n* Proficiency in building and maintaining large-scale data warehousing technologies such as Redshift.\n\n\n\n\nAbout You: \n\n\n* A+ character. We are team-first here at Sezzle. \n\n* A hard-working mentality. It’s early and there is still a lot to build. \n\n* An excellent communicator. \n\n* A fun attitude. Life’s too short. We can have fun while we work hard on cool things. \n\n* Smarts. We need people that are smart enough to make decisions on their own and also smart enough to know when they need input from others. \n\n\n\n\nCompensation\n\nThe compensation range for the role is as follows:\n\n4,600 - 9,000 USD Monthly\n\nEqual Employment Opportunity: Sezzle Inc. is an equal opportunity employer. We celebrate diversity and are committed to creating an inclusive environment for all employees. We do not discriminate based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age, disability, genetic information, pregnancy, or any other legally protected status. Sezzle recognizes and values the importance of diversity and inclusion in enriching the employment experience of its employees and in supporting our mission.\n\n#Li-remote \n\n#Salary and compensation\n No salary data published by company so we estimated salary based on similar jobs related to Python, Docker, Cloud, Senior, Sales and Engineer jobs that are similar:\n\n $57,500 — $112,500/year\n
\n\n#Benefits\n 💰 401(k)\n\n🌎 Distributed team\n\n⏰ Async\n\n🤓 Vision insurance\n\n🦷 Dental insurance\n\n🚑 Medical insurance\n\n🏖 Unlimited vacation\n\n🏖 Paid time off\n\n📆 4 day workweek\n\n💰 401k matching\n\n🏔 Company retreats\n\n🏬 Coworking budget\n\n📚 Learning budget\n\n💪 Free gym membership\n\n🧘 Mental wellness budget\n\n🖥 Home office budget\n\n🥧 Pay in crypto\n\n🥸 Pseudonymous\n\n💰 Profit sharing\n\n💰 Equity compensation\n\n⬜️ No whiteboard interview\n\n👀 No monitoring system\n\n🚫 No politics at work\n\n🎅 We hire old (and young)\n\n
\n\n#Location\nBogotá, Bogotá, Colombia

\nDevOps Engineer– Emphasis on Linux / Docker / Node.js / Elasticsearch / MongoDB\nThe Opportunity:\nWe're looking for an experienced DevOps engineer based in Phoenix, AZ, Virginia Beach, VA or the Washington, DC metro area, however remote (tele) workers will be considered for the position also if you have excellent communication skills and are willing to travel to one of the above locations several times per year.\nThe Day to Day:\n* Provide operational support and automation tools to application developers \n* Bridge the gap between development and operations to ensure successful delivery of projects \n* Participate as a member of the application development team \n* Build back-end frameworks that are maintainable, flexible and scaleable\n* Operate and scale the application back-end including the database clusters \n* Anticipate tomorrow's problems by understanding what users are trying to accomplish today \n\n\nRequirements:\n* DevOps experience with Linux or FreeBSD \n* Experience with Linux Containers and Docker \n* Configuration management experience, Salt Stack preferred \n* Exposure to the deployment and operations of node.js applications \n* Experience operating and optimizing Elasticsearch at large scale\n* Operational experience with Hadoop, MongoDB, Redis, Cassandra, or other distributed big data systems \n* Experience with any of JavaScript, Python, Ruby, Perl and/or shell scripting \n* Comfort with compute clusters and many terabytes of data \n* US Citizenship / Work Authorization\n\n\nBonus Points:\n* Development experience with Node.js or other HTTP backend tools\n* Mac OS X familiarity \n* BS or MS in a technology or scientific field of study\n* High energy level and pleasant, positive attitude!\n* Evidence of working well within a diverse team\n\n\nCompensation:\n* Salary commensurate with experience, generally higher than competitive industries\n* Comprehensive benefits package\n* Opportunities for advancement and a clear career path\n\n\nAbout Us:\nWe conduct advanced technical research and develop innovative software and systems that help meet network security and reliability challenges for organizations world-wide.  You can read more at our web site.  \nCareer Opportunities:\nWe have many other openings available. For a complete listing, visit jobs.vostrom.com \n\n#Salary and compensation\n No salary data published by company so we estimated salary based on similar jobs related to DevOps, JavaScript, InfoSec, Elasticsearch, Java, Perl, Python, Node, Ruby, Admin, Excel, Engineer, Sys Admin, Cassandra, Backend, Design, Docker, Digital Nomad, Travel and Linux jobs that are similar:\n\n $70,000 — $120,000/year\n
\n\n#Benefits\n 💰 401(k)\n\n🌎 Distributed team\n\n⏰ Async\n\n🤓 Vision insurance\n\n🦷 Dental insurance\n\n🚑 Medical insurance\n\n🏖 Unlimited vacation\n\n🏖 Paid time off\n\n📆 4 day workweek\n\n💰 401k matching\n\n🏔 Company retreats\n\n🏬 Coworking budget\n\n📚 Learning budget\n\n💪 Free gym membership\n\n🧘 Mental wellness budget\n\n🖥 Home office budget\n\n🥧 Pay in crypto\n\n🥸 Pseudonymous\n\n💰 Profit sharing\n\n💰 Equity compensation\n\n⬜️ No whiteboard interview\n\n👀 No monitoring system\n\n🚫 No politics at work\n\n🎅 We hire old (and young)\n\n